Do not do 5F-ADB ( or any similar ), drug induced chest pain

Guys stay the fuck away from this shit and all the ones similar, ( I have previous history of abuse a good few years back ) smoking grams of powders in a few days, this probably all caught up with me but lads FUCK THIS SHIT.

smoked it for 1-2 months and my chest has been crazy for the past 1.5months, there is a constant feeling there and sometimes shocking pains come and lasts for like a minute,

If it doesn't affect you yet, it will trust me. This shit is poison I have been coughing up black shit for the past month, it scared me so much I have quit smoking because when I smoke now it makes my chest tight as fuck.

These noids are just bad news, if you care about your life and want to continue doing other drugs then please quit this shit out. I also get headaches.

I am living proof that these chemicals are bad news, I have fucked myself up.

If you love someone you will stop doing this for them.

If you don't give a fuck if you die then just keep doing this but let me tell you this, it won't be painless.

Could it be, that noids are just shit to smoke? I mean, fire is known to break down molecules. And i wouldn’t just trust in some compound with fluorine-atoms built in it (there are many more potential hazards, but this kills people probably the most).

Probably a bit less hazardous would be vaping, as the temperature is a lot lower and it will probably just vaporize and condense in your lungs unbroken. They could and will of course still be poisonous, but probably a little less.

Saying this, i vape once every few days and don’t have any problems with other noids so far. But those compounds are just toxic, so i won’t order anything again after I consumed the last 10mg of what I still have laying around (SGT-25).

Tldr: Stay healthy and stay away from that shit at all. If you still consider them, try a less risky ROA than smoking.

(Also, english isn’t my native language, so excuse the shitty sentence and word-use)

Tbh it does feel like my chest is burnt, it feels itchy and weird sometimes, and sometimes its ok and sometimes it's worse , do you think it could repair itself or permanent damage?

I do not consider them, I have quit smoking weed and cigarettes because it makes my chest feel fucked.

Holy shit, sorry for that textwall. I just had to add more and more.

No way to tell that and i doubt even doctors could say this for sure, because those things are pretty unknown about. BUT: the body can repair a lot of damage. Not a doctor, but it should get fine again after a while.

You shouldn‘t worry anyway. It won‘t help if you worry. Visit a doctor if you can afford it. He might at least be able to tell you what is damaged.

And please just dump that shit down a toilet if there is not a physical dependency yet. I don’t know of the withdrawal effects of cannabinoids. I‘m only ( “scientifically“) experienced with common drugs. Some drugs should be slowly tapered off, others can just be stopped. But if you feel like you still HAVE TO take them(tapering) DO NOT smoke them.

It sounds like your lungs are either irritated(good case) or damaged (bad case) and I would assume it is because of the direct contact with the molecule or breakdown products.

So just focus mainly on not getting it on your lungs. Second goal is not taking them at all anymore.

They are clearly not worth the damage they cause, so stop it ASAP.

I hope i could help. Now go inform yourself about the consequences of withdrawal. If not fatal STOP IT NOW.

Oh I have been addicted and went through withdrawal over 7 times over the years, the first 2-3 times was really hard because my whole body and face went numb for a week or two, took me like 5 relapses to fully quit then I tried it a few years later, which is this point.

I am fucking retard I should of learnt my lesson the first 5 times lol.

Thanks I have stopped since around a week ago ever since I couldn't breathe properly, feels like I am slowly getting better.

Thanks for that bro you made me feel a good bit better :) won't be touching the shit again, nor alcohol. not just itchy it's like a weird pulsing pain that goes and comes after like 10 seconds, sometimes it gets worse and sometimes its not, but it feels like something is always there doing something, I have doctors on wednesday so I will talk to her about it then, (I get free health care)

Sounds great and manageable with a strong will! If you can’t make it totally sober or you cant eat: get some real weed and consume it by eating(cooking weedbutter and such stuff). This won‘t hurt your lungs and your receptors aren‘t totally empty.

You should try to not get high, but soften the withdrawal a little. And you can probably eat some stuff instead of not eating for a week. You basically do 2 smaller withdrawals instead of a big one. And you will feel a smaller craving than just going from 100 to 0.

I am not addicted anymore, I had a few days off feeling shit but I am a lot better now thankfully ( I didn't smoke it very heavy like last time, I only smoked about 15 .5 bags before this happened and freaked me out.

I have been coughing up black phlegm it sometimes just comes up, is this my body just clearing up my lungs?

Look up “smokers cough“. It happens when you shit your lung with tons of tar. Tar is more or less produced while burning most organic stuff, so it comes from the herb and maybe a little bit from the substance. The body tries to slowly get rid of it. It probably doesn’t explain the pain(not sure, look it up) but at least the black stuff

You probably smoked joints without a real filter? A cig filter should reduce the tar, charcoal a lot better. Not using a filter would increase the amount of tar a lot and explains why you have such symptoms from moderate smoking. It also happens with filter, but in that case it often takes years of use

I guess better than unfiltered joints, but not much. If you ever do weed again, after you recovered: there are some nice active charcoal((i dont know if this is even the right word)) filters/setups to put on your bong. From time to time you exchange the coal-granulate, but it isnt too expensive.

And surprisingly, they make the smoke smooth but the effects still hit hard.

I don’t know if weed is an option where you live, but if it is, safe your lungs and have a look into them.

And about your lungs: please give a small update in a month or after some symptoms vanish. I would be really interested if you are okay and those problems are gone by then. And other users here will probably also be interested in this.

Wish you a good recovery!

I hope I recover and I will do, I probably worrying too much, can't wait till wednesday for doctors if I am not dead by then lol

How do I do the remindme bot?

Yeah man I thought that fub amb was bad it gave me a siezure but I was abusing the fuck out of the powder. I took one small hit of the 5f and no, no, I couldn't do it, the effects were so disturbing to me and not at all pleasant.

I had to quit. I couldn’t control redosing. As a result I have a huge list of physicians I see, for heart, lung & kidneys. Heart attack, cardiac catheter surgery with stent placement due to noids interference with my clotting factors. My kidneys bleed. WD’s were evil off noids. blood pressure & heart rate went sky high, when I quit. Landed in the hospital the first time, second time I was basically bed ridden but had the meds to combat it. Third time was a charm, heart surgery & kidney damage. Everyone’s their own person but it didn’t end well for me.

I had no choice, vitals were bad. Took 2 weeks to straighten out...& my dumbass went back on again. Second time I had bp meds to help, took couple weeks to straighten out..& my dumbass went back to noids again. Well the last time ending with heart surgery. I’m so weak I can’t lift my dick now, 7 months later. I miss golfing, hunting, fishing, & all the fun things of life

Smoking grams of raw powder? Man I heard of a story similar to yours,but yeah,those chemicals induce chest pains,but in my over 13 years RC usage I ne er smoked raw noid powder or had a super addiction from them Do like always,moderation is the key I’m not judging anyone bc I’m an addict myself,but come on bro,u cannot smoke directly that shit Especially those newer noids I used to smoke jwh018 off foil,but didn’t gave me chest pains Those newer noids also the blends caused in some individual the same effects you talked about

it depends i havent smoke a pre made blend in my life,i always made mines in my country blends and bath salts were never sold, contrary for example to the US where in early 2011 shit like k2 or bliss or ivory wave were definitely a thing

My blood pressure & heart rate were in stroke range, I was symptomatic (couldn’t stand or I’d start to pass out, from the continued increase in HR & BP. 190’s/120’s HR standing 140-160, major chest pain accompaniment

Wait, you smoked grams of the powder within a few days? Well, things are starting to make sense. And how exactly were you smoking the pure powder?

I used to cough up black shit every day when I smoked nothing but weed. And when I smoked mid I would notice some pain as you describe.

Tbh it sounds more like a “you problem” than a “noid problem”. I smoke a little THJ-018 every night with no problems like that.