Need some harm reduction/expectation advice
I bought some no name stuff from a
vendor(not saying the name here obviously). So I guess what I want to know is,
assuming it is the most addictive noid out there(like 5f), what is the
threshold for withdrawal/dependence?
I don't plan on using more than twice a
week at mid/low doses. I already know how little is needed for an
effect(tweezers were needed). My backup plan if I don't have the willpower to
keep to that infrequent use is to throw it all away immediately, I do have
experience with doing just that with another substance about 2 years ago.
Will that infrequent/low amount of use
trigger dependence and withdrawals?
I would honestly just not bother man. You
think you will be able to limit your use, but chances are you won't. These
current noids get inside your head, and once you're using them frequently, bad
things happen. Expect mood swings, depression, and general nasty feeling
withdrawals. It's really not worth it.
The high isn't all that cool the first time
you do it, it doesn't get cool until you've done it enough to have negative
effects when you quit. Just don't
Everyone is different but for what its
worth, I think you would be right about frequent use. Testing the water is fine
but dependence/addiction is not on a linear scale. My use would be manageable
if sustained but unpleasant for the 70 hours in between, not worth it like you
said.
I haven’t had this experience despite over
4 months of use.
There are laboratories you can send samples
to for research purposes so your package wont be seized. There are menial costs
and youd need a minuscule amount of product to sample. Just search around
google youll atleast then have a complete chemical profile of whatever your
putting in you.
Energy control will give you (OP) this info
I believe it costs 50$. Ecstacydata may though I'm not certain cost is similar.
You would be correct. I assume it is an
amplified noid, though unsure. I added a quick reply on my 7-10 day experiment,
it does produce a noticeable chemical dependency even 72 hours between oral
ingestion. Nothing awful for withdrawal and nothing that produces cravings
worse than nicotine. That being said, I have not taken high doses or have used
this for an extended period of time, nor will I.
I have 0 experience with RCs besides this
mystery one, would you have a suggestion on which RC noid to look for?
So, I may send something off to Energy
control, I am not really that tempted to know what it is, more what it does.
Its time of effectiveness on inhalation was T 0:05:00 - T 0:20:00(HH:MM:SS).
Ingestion was T 2:00:00 - T 4:00:00. I would say ingestion is a very efficient
ROA method).
More importantly I have my answer. 1 week
of every 3rd day use, oral ingestion, does produce mild withdrawal symptoms.
Nothing that has me craving or hurting, but a mild nausea and respiratory
sensation after about 36 Hrs without. Seems to fade on the third day(72 hours
after ingestion). Its manageable but not pleasant. I imagine daily, extended
use would produce one hell of a withdrawal issue. This stuff is more addictive
than cocaine in terms of how quickly chemical dependency develops but doesn't
elicit cravings immediately(but that may be due to experience).
For myself, I think I will be keeping it
around for days I feel that I just need something(once a month or every other
month usually) or a music festival day or 2. Regular tests at work prevent me
from using THC like a responsible adult, Im supposed to pickle my liver or take
extremely addictive drugs with short living metabolites like everyone else.
Everyone is different, if you're using an
addictive substance as a crutch you will likely become an addict. I believe
responsible use of anything is possible but not common.
5f what 5fakb48 was amazing and not
addicting is the person that become addicted and not the drug itself
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