Need some harm reduction/expectation advice


I bought some no name stuff from a vendor(not saying the name here obviously). So I guess what I want to know is, assuming it is the most addictive noid out there(like 5f), what is the threshold for withdrawal/dependence?

I don't plan on using more than twice a week at mid/low doses. I already know how little is needed for an effect(tweezers were needed). My backup plan if I don't have the willpower to keep to that infrequent use is to throw it all away immediately, I do have experience with doing just that with another substance about 2 years ago.

Will that infrequent/low amount of use trigger dependence and withdrawals?

I would honestly just not bother man. You think you will be able to limit your use, but chances are you won't. These current noids get inside your head, and once you're using them frequently, bad things happen. Expect mood swings, depression, and general nasty feeling withdrawals. It's really not worth it.

The high isn't all that cool the first time you do it, it doesn't get cool until you've done it enough to have negative effects when you quit. Just don't

Everyone is different but for what its worth, I think you would be right about frequent use. Testing the water is fine but dependence/addiction is not on a linear scale. My use would be manageable if sustained but unpleasant for the 70 hours in between, not worth it like you said.

I haven’t had this experience despite over 4 months of use.

There are laboratories you can send samples to for research purposes so your package wont be seized. There are menial costs and youd need a minuscule amount of product to sample. Just search around google youll atleast then have a complete chemical profile of whatever your putting in you.

Energy control will give you (OP) this info I believe it costs 50$. Ecstacydata may though I'm not certain cost is similar.

You would be correct. I assume it is an amplified noid, though unsure. I added a quick reply on my 7-10 day experiment, it does produce a noticeable chemical dependency even 72 hours between oral ingestion. Nothing awful for withdrawal and nothing that produces cravings worse than nicotine. That being said, I have not taken high doses or have used this for an extended period of time, nor will I.

I have 0 experience with RCs besides this mystery one, would you have a suggestion on which RC noid to look for?

So, I may send something off to Energy control, I am not really that tempted to know what it is, more what it does. Its time of effectiveness on inhalation was T 0:05:00 - T 0:20:00(HH:MM:SS). Ingestion was T 2:00:00 - T 4:00:00. I would say ingestion is a very efficient ROA method).

More importantly I have my answer. 1 week of every 3rd day use, oral ingestion, does produce mild withdrawal symptoms. Nothing that has me craving or hurting, but a mild nausea and respiratory sensation after about 36 Hrs without. Seems to fade on the third day(72 hours after ingestion). Its manageable but not pleasant. I imagine daily, extended use would produce one hell of a withdrawal issue. This stuff is more addictive than cocaine in terms of how quickly chemical dependency develops but doesn't elicit cravings immediately(but that may be due to experience).

For myself, I think I will be keeping it around for days I feel that I just need something(once a month or every other month usually) or a music festival day or 2. Regular tests at work prevent me from using THC like a responsible adult, Im supposed to pickle my liver or take extremely addictive drugs with short living metabolites like everyone else.

Everyone is different, if you're using an addictive substance as a crutch you will likely become an addict. I believe responsible use of anything is possible but not common.

5f what 5fakb48 was amazing and not addicting is the person that become addicted and not the drug itself

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